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I would suggest that you didn't talk with the right customers!

I'm sure every notes shop would tell you to improve the nsf - I hate dealing with a corrupt database, but when you actually look under the hood, perhaps these databases are being used in a more relational manner so that having a relational database as the back end makes more sense!

One of the most severe limitations in getting to documents is having a view with the 'correct' first sorted column. I have databases with more views that any other design element, and most of these views are lookups. Sometimes the lookup column is simple, other times it is a complex concatenation of drill-down key values. The query view is a simple concept that allows designers to develop views at run-time not at design-time.

Secondly, when one is trying to select a set of documents based on certain filter values, we are forced to use a full text index. How is it possible to return a filtered set of data in an orderly view (like select * from table where x=y ORDER BY z) unless there are pre-built views for every value of z?

Finally, what happens when you want to combine information from different forms (simple join in sql)? I'm told you can do this with xpages, however, I can't figure out how to use the view control to make the join. Maybe you can make the join for one record, but what if you want to launch a spreadsheet with all the documents from the above filter? What I generally do now is store the fields from the second form on the first and then write AGENTS to update the first form when values on the second change. Pretty unproductive...

I'd say the relational back end should be made a requirement, rather than trying to force domino designers into a convoluted mechanism for getting to the right data. I'm wondering right now how easy it would be to get help to craft the right sql statement, than it would be to find an xpages expert. Based on the amount of time either has been around, the answer is a no-brainer.


Feedback response number WEBB7NRPF4 created by ~Dana Chulumarflar on 01/29/2009

DB2NSF replacement (~Judy Destookon... 29.Jan.09)
. . Does this mean that DB2 integration... (~Elizabeth Cish... 29.Jan.09)
. . . . . . xpages can incorporate DB2 access (Roland Reddekop... 2.Feb.09)
. . . . . . . . . . Toy or Trojan? (Roland Reddekop... 2.Feb.09)
. . NSFDB2 plans (~Tate Nonkizenl... 29.Jan.09)
. . . . I would suggest that you didn't tal... (~Dana Chulumarf... 29.Jan.09)
. . . . I need View Contention to go away (~Chris Bubfreep... 29.Jan.09)
. . . . . . Writing out to RDBMS (~Dana Chulumarf... 29.Jan.09)
. . . . how would you handle huge #docs and... (~Tanita Asaboos... 29.Jan.09)
. . . . Domino is a repository (~Olga Asaponeso... 2.Feb.09)
. . . . . . Domino/Notes is really business wor... (~Isaac Quetnute... 20.Feb.09)
. . . . . . use the rigth design (Ioan Crisan 20.Feb.09)
. . . . the second Garnet move (~Judy Destookon... 29.Jan.09)
. . . . . . NSFDB2 support available until 2017... (~Tate Nonkizenl... 29.Jan.09)
. . . . . . . . Query views...but requesting which ... (~Nicole Minaber... 30.Jan.09)
. . . . . . . . . . use the agent trigger "when docs ar... (Ioan Crisan 20.Feb.09)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . actually this one is (Ioan Crisan 24.Feb.09)
. . . . . . . . . . transactions (Pejman Parandi 2.Feb.09)
. . There's more discussion on NSF's po... (~Sanjay Quettum... 29.Jan.09)
. . . . the backend is poor (~Judy Destookon... 2.Feb.09)
. . . . . . Rating something as "Poor" is relat... (~Gus Chukikonyo... 2.Feb.09)
. . . . . . . . . . The idea has long history... (Vladimir Panov 3.Feb.09)
. . . . . . . . . . . . That's very interesting... (~Sanjay Quettum... 3.Feb.09)
. . . . . . . . NSF versus a relational DB (~Sanjay Quettum... 2.Feb.09)
. . . . . . . . . . YES WE CAN :)) (~Judy Destookon... 3.Feb.09)
. . . . . . . . simple applications need relational... (~Judy Destookon... 3.Feb.09)
. . . . . . . . . . LMAO (~Naomi Deskrote... 4.Feb.09)
. . . . . . . . . . . . obscured by clouds (~Judy Destookon... 5.Feb.09)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . "Happy with what I already have" (~Naomi Deskrote... 7.Feb.09)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . LMAO at "chasing with a pitchfork" (~Sanjay Quettum... 8.Feb.09)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . dynamic queries, triggers ... (~Judy Destookon... 10.Feb.09)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Normalization (~Naomi Deskrote... 10.Feb.09)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . pet store application (~Judy Destookon... 10.Feb.09)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Defining your own limitations (~Naomi Deskrote... 12.Feb.09)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . eCommerce web sites (~Judy Destookon... 13.Feb.09)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . I don't think you're clear on the m... (~Naomi Deskrote... 13.Feb.09)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . fact = market <eom> (~Judy Destookon... 13.Feb.09)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . by the way (~Judy Destookon... 10.Feb.09)
. . . . . . . . . . Trivial (~Naomi Deskrote... 4.Feb.09)
. . . . . . . . . . . . db2nsf (~Judy Destookon... 5.Feb.09)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . Agreed (~Sanjay Quettum... 5.Feb.09)
. . . . . . . . . . . . Resolving keys in a view (~Olga Asaponeso... 5.Feb.09)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . Yesterday's complaint (~Naomi Deskrote... 7.Feb.09)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . NSFDB2 helped Lotusscript programme... (Nathan T. Freem... 10.Feb.09)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . pureXML (Pejman Parandi 10.Feb.09)
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . The query views work in all version... (Bruce Lill 24.Feb.09)




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